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rehn and a history to devotion. talks about the devotion, efforts, and exploits of the peerless patriot kim jong illinois. the answer to our challenge question was c, it was inaugust yags in 1960. near myer designed the building at the headquarters in new york city. thanks for being part of my show the week. i'll see you next week. stay tuned for "reliable sources." bob costas steps outside football to discuss gun control. it's so great that the nbc sportscaster had to hit the air
waves to defend himself. >> how do you feel about the right to bear arms. >> obviously americans have a right to bear arms. i'm not looking to repeal the second amendment. >> costas has gone too far. a fox contributor caught on tape saying that ales and rupert murdoch wanted him to run for president and ailes might quite the network to help him. >> he said if you're offering chairman, take it. if you're offering nels else, don't take it, resign and run for president. okay. i know you're not running for president but at some point you way management to chat with roger. >> well, rupert's after me as well. >> was ales crossing the line or was fox analysis kmt t. mcfarland just exaggerating. jake tapper travels to tell the story of brave american joerlds who fought and in some cases died there. we'll ask him why this war has
vanished from the media's radar screen. conversation with soledad o'brien. plus, a veteran reporter struggles to the tell the story of his son's problems takes him to visit bill clinton and george bush and realizes he must dig deep sbeer his own shortcomings as a father. ron foreign yeah on the pain and promise of personal journalism. i'm howard kurtz and this is "reliable sources." -- captions by vitac -- the most memorable moment on sunday night football took place during halftime. the game aired one day after that shocking tragedy in which kansas city chief's linebacker javon belcher allegedly shot himself and hids girlfriend and nbc sforts caster bob costas decided to dough vote his talking to guns. his own feelings were quite clear. >> you want some actual perspective on this?
well, a bit of it comes from the kansas city based righter jason wit lock with whom i do not always agree but today said it so well that we may as well quote or pair phrase from the end of his article. our current gun culture, wit lock wrote, ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy, but here, wrote jason wit lock, is what i believe. if javon belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> gun control critics quickly declared war on costas on twitter anded on the air. >> bob costas based on the standards of our society today and the zan orders of our industry the one i worked in deceives to be fired for thiz remarks. >> how come cot kostas gets to express his opinion during halftime of sunday night football? the answer is simple. that's the opinion of his bosses. he gets to express the opinion
because of what nbc thinks. >> the furor was so intense that within 48 hours costases with back on the air playing defense. >> it's not that i'm afraid to go sbien that zone but if you're going, you need more time and you need to be able to get into some nuance. what i was talking about here and i'm sorry if that wasn't clear to everybody was a gun culture. i never mentioned the second amendment. i never used the words "gun control." people inferred that. give me bun example of a professional athlete who by virtue of his having a gun took a dangerous situation and turned it around for the better. >> so did bob costas step too far outside the role of a sports analyst? joining me is christine brennan, sports kol oumist and mike wise who writes. christine, simple question. was bob costas out of bounds in proesed his political concerns? >> actually i do not think he was. what i think should have been done is the term kmonltary,
howie, should have been put on the screen the way it is for mike wise and me and make it crystal clear that this next 90 seconds is an opinion piece. but i do believe that -- and i know mike feels this way too about columns and sports. sports is a reflection of our society much mar than it is the escape, the sports section. so with that in mind i would say to have these national conversations, whether it be about concussions or domestic violence, which i would make this case, this could have been more about that, whatever it is, steroids, penn state, that's where sports is taking us, and i think bob is one of those leaders in that area. >> by his own admission though, he took this polarizing issue and tried to deal with it in 90 seconds and that was a bloodbath. >> yeah, i wish he would have taken out a op-ed editorial and basically arctic a littled his thoughts about it. >> should he have been doing it during a football game in your
view? >> i don't know if -- it's like a last bastion of a political thought. you can go to a sporting event, watch it on tv and say, you know what? you're not going to get any proabortion, anti-gun -- so the idea that somehow bob costas used that vehicle to give his opinion, the second thought is. >> wait, wait. christine brennan says that sports can no longer be this walled off garden where we begin that terrible things that afflict society, don't affect athletes, coaches, players. so you know this was 24 hours after the murder/suicide. if costas hadden brought it up, would he have been doing his job? >> i think he was not doing his job. i think -- i think -- i think you can actually be upset that he did it and still agree, if this makes sense, with the idea behind it. in other words again, i think
nbc needed to put commentary on it. i think they needed do it. but for those who want sports to be the escape, they're angry, right? they want the moment get way from the real world frl but here's news. you cannot get rid of real news in the sports world. >> you're right about that. sports is a microcosm of society. bob costas, christine brennan, myself, i like to go deeper in the games, but sunday night football in meshlg has essentially become monday night and everybody watches. bob costas has done so much good work on his show, on other shows, there could have been a different vehicle for him to get his thoughts across. that's all i thought. >> one of the reasons that sports come men tarots being popular is because they have broad appeal, because they can appeal to democrats and republicans, liberals and conservatives. costas had to know that by stepping outside that role a little bit, even if there had been a neon sign flashing
commentary, he was going to tick off a substantial chunk of his fan base and yet he took that risk. >> sometimes you have to fall for everything or stand for something. and bob costas is somebody who stands for something and i applaud that. i don't want the guy in the booth all the time that says nothing. nonetheless i thought it was a bad venue. >> well, of course, you made the point. body has done some great work on these issues and he is with us talking about these things. the munich olympic tragedy, the opening ceremonies in london, olympic stadium. bob doesn't shy away from these things and i think that's terrific. >> people who are angry at cotts as the and thing he should be fired, is it that they don't adegree with his views or completely inappropriate using that half 250itime broadcast. i thing it would be more of the latter. i'm sure some would agree but
they would say you're the host of the halftime. >> i think it would bring them out on both sides. >> like when you and i know when we write something controversial, if people all agree with me, i'm nervous. what's wrong? the idea is to stir the pot, make people think. like i said, if it was a little clearer to every viewer watching that that bob was going go into 0 seconds of a kmimtary kind of issue, if it was the issue of domestic violence or concussions, that is part of the problem here. it wasn't labeled well by his network. >> this is where i agree with her. domestic violence, the disproportionate number of assaults that happen in sports as opposed to society is wrong and it needs to be talking about more, and that could have been -- the violent culture of football and that could have been what it's about. >> does this in some way tarnish nbc who has not spoken out. they go on the air and say,
well, the lib raps are on nbc. someone has to approve this. somebody on nbc said, okay, bob, go ahead. >> think nbc could have handled it better. i was very critical for all the tape delay. this the 2012. this isn't the days of "ozzie & hair yet." in full cldisclosure i work wit abc and some cbs as well. that's rush limbaugh doing rush limbaugh. >> i thereafter that we have actually made this such a huge topic because we come to the point where we accept the major networks in this country taking a political side and yet once it happens in sports, oh, my gosh, you guys went too far. your main news broadcasters are taking sides. >> different standards. >> correct. >> where perhaps there shouldn't be. i must say. this when costas went out and did the interviews, he took it
head on. i guess he's decided to take his stand on this. >> in his commentary he quoted another -- >> it was a figure leaf. >> got bless america that jason wit lock and bob costas and people of their ilk are actually speelking about their issues instead of chris kol ing worth being tough quarterback for the bears after receiving a concussi concussion. >> i've got to blow the whistle. thanks for joining us this morning. coming back. a secret tape recorder. was robert ales cvently pushes david petraeus to run for president? people have doubts about taking aspirin for pain.
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the teenaangled tale of aled mcfar land. she said she was carrying a message from the network chairman. a digital recording posted by bob woodward captured it where
ales was said to be advising petraeus that unless offered the joint chairman chiefs of staff he should quit and run for president. >> tell him if i ever ran but i won't. >> okay, i know, i know. >> but if i ever ran, i would take him up on his offer. >> he said he would quit fox and bank roll it. >> bank roll it? >> or maybe i'm confusing that with rupert. >> was he meddling in politics? joining us -- here in washington eric well pl who blogs about the media at "the washington post." does he strie to orchestrate politics in a way that is unacceptable. >> i think it shows robert ales can't keep himself out of politics. who can blame him. you know, it's hard, you know, to blame him.
the problem is what it does for his news network which is it makes it at least appear, i think, in fact, more than just appearance. in this karks you know, a sheen of reality that he's out there trying to get a better republican feield in the primaries. kt mcfarland said it was a joke, i don't believe it. >> he kind of undermined his own contributor, kt mcfarland saying she was way out of line there's somebody's fantasy to make me a king maker. what's your take on hour serious this was? i think i agree with aerk that it didn't seem like a joke at the time. now, maybe they'd like for it to be thought of as a joke now. i think it's not a surprise to
anybody and roger's interest in this area is not a surprise either. i take your point about what it means to have that be reflects on the entire news operation. there's a whole segment which does nothing but possible tiff indicate about presidential politics and support those who they thing should be in the oval office, so that part of it, you know, is not a surprise to me. i think what makes it tweech is you should flat out run. we're going to do everything to support you. i don't want to hear that. >> let's keep in mind that ailes's voice is not on this tape. it's somebody describes it. he had dinner with mitt romney and told him to loosen up, in effect.
>> i think before we move on from this tape. everyone's got to lynn to all 13 minutes of the tape. >> is this a homework assignment for our viewers? >> yes, exactly. in which she says if you have any problems with headlines call me up because i'm right next to the headline rig looiline write >> she says tell us what to -- >> she says tell us what to do differently. she asks, write our headlines, please. everybody at fox loves you. if you sign on to be president -- excuse me, if you wanted to run for president, we'd all sign on. >> this is kt mcfarland, part-time editor. >> right. she's reflecting the sentiment of fox. >> hue do you know that? >> she says we all love you. that's front. do you think she's misrepresenting fox news? i don't know. she certainly had a conversation with roger ailes. >> she certainly is representing roger ailes. >> seems that way. go ahead callie, i'm sorry.
>> i think it's been fed into the link, whether it's at dinner or behind the scenes, to me this underscores that. this has been a complaint by many over the years. >> in other news, there was a piece that says senior management has to give permission when two of the most prominent fox come member taters are on. they are karl rove and dick morris who, shall we say, turned out to be wrong. will it's take a look. >> i don't know what the outcome is going to be, but we've got be careful about calling things when we have 91 votes separating the two candidates and a quarter of the vote yet to count. >> romney will win this election by five to ten points in the popular vote and will carry more than 300 elect torl votes. >> so erik, are karl and dick
being put in the penalty box? >> i don't know. it was on his website. he said, i'll be on twice next week. it seems they're having to do some pr work. i think that's good. i don't think dick morris -- we don't need to hear from him anymore. >> the question i have, callie, is whether or not -- lots of pundits are wrong about a lot of things, whether they're being made to adopt a lower profile. they weren't just wrong but seen as partisan republicans as opposed to independent analysts. >> i think there's a couple of things going on here. first of all, he wasn't just wrong. he had a meltdown there. that was more than just wrong. >> about the calling of ohio. >> yes. >> okay. >> exactly. so that's -- you know, that's more than wrong. that's a whole event that took place around his being wrong. i think the second part is
this is karl rove, not some other pundit. >> all right. >> yeah, yeah, that's what they say. so yeah, yeah. >> let me move on to msnbc. you even done a little reporting on this. rachel maddow had on their whole prime time lineup with a couple of people including arianna huffington. that i went to a private meeting with president obama at the white house. lots of people supported them, over for chats, coffee, doughnut ts burke this looks like the msnbc commentary, people who host those commentary shows that they're on the team? >> well, thank is the impression. i just don't see what use it is to go when you can't get anything out of the president. in other words, you're basically -- the problem with this is it seems to be an act of capitulation. please spin me -- >> lots of proponents have gone to off the record briefings. >> no.
>> they've been described as influential. >> influential progressives. >> did they talk with you? >> what bothers me is they go about it in lockstep silence and they won't talk what they asked the president because they're not bound to off the record. they can me what they said, how they viewed this thing. but i called almost every one of these people, oh, i'm sorry, i can't say a word. this is like tor grets or something. >> at least you called them. let me get a bring. coming up next, a death in the subways and a "new york post" photo that has sparked a very emotional debate. nasal congestion?lieve sure don't you? [ nyquil bottle ] dude! [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't.
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horrifying murder caught on camerand eight sparked a huge controversy. now the story behind this controversial picture on the front of the "new york post." a photographer snapped the shot just before a train killed a man pushed on the tracks. >> it's a heartbreaking story and the photographer says, listen, he was just clicking his camera trying to warn the conductor. >> cassie crosley, they say this
was a senseless picture to post. do you agree with that. >> i agree with that. just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something. that's the purpose of editors. i know it wasn't bloody or graphic. it wasn't graphic, i just showdown a picture. was there another headline they could have put there? the headline was over the top as well. the picture itself is horrifying and i think it did not have to be on the cover. >> erik wemple, it was cheap, gut-wrenching and news, a new yorker's nightmare. >> i heard all of this, commercializing a tragic event and so on and so forth. sbrinlten a toilk generate that outrage within-about it because it's extremely newsworthy and this would have been newsworthy with ow without the photo. the photo answer as lot of
questions not only about what happened but also the story of the photographer and how he was approaching and so phenomenon and so format. >> the photographer is u mar abbasi. he's taken a lot of abuse. he said that he was too far away to help. >> yeah. i don't want to get into second-guessing his actions. >> you're right. >> and whether this photo resulted from some willy nilly wile to snap at the sub waib driver but whatever he says. >> c acallie, let me get back d you. why have so many networks, television stations, networks run it again and again and again. seems like since the "new york post" went first, everybody else is cashing in on the drama of the moment. >> listen. all those people you just cited would run pictures of people leaping out of the world trade
centers, too, if they weren't prevented. i mean i em not taking away the crass popularity or just people being drawn to it. it's a compelling photo for that reason. my question is did it have to be on the cover? i don't think so. if you really think you need to show your consumers this, put it somewhere on the web and make me work for it if way tonight see it. i have a problem with that but guile there. i did not think that had to be on the cover. that's a judgment call that i think they aired on, that didn't have to be there. >> that's what tabloids do. >> i have no problem with the placement. the julkt is once you decide it's noteworthy and newsworthy, it goes everywhere. front cover, everywhere. >> i'm still looking at it and still shaking my head. you're clearly in the don't run it in any category. thanks very much for stopping by this morning. after the break abc's jake tapper strays far from his white
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jake tapper usually holds down the fort not too far way but he was out in afghanistan where soldiers suffered heavy ambush. the book is called "the out post." he joins me in the studio now. hello, jake. >> hi, howie. >> you talk about how honest to be about the horrors of war. explain. >> well, journal is particularly we don't cover that very much in american media, taking our cues from the american public that doesn't want to hear about the grisly details, but in -- >> do we sanitize the war by doing that? >> we do. we sanitize the war. i don't show a lot of the injuries, the wounds, the carnage. we don't describe it in very much detail when we write about it and show it on tv. so this was a very difficult decision. one of the goals was to make the public understand what the brave troops and families are understanding what they're going through for us.
i opted toll withhold some of the information b, but i wantedo be honest and truthful. >> is one of thit is that yowl covered it. does it seem bloodless, detached from the political environmental in washington? >> exactly. that's one of the things. i had been covering the war from the white house. covers obama's wartime meetings, how many troops are we going to send there? 4,000, they could be jobs numbers, gdp numbers and the foous when the white house and pentagon and the fight between general petraeus and crystal. that wasn't going on. and when i felt called to do the book that's what i wanted to understand, what actually is going on on the level of private, specialists, sergeant, not general and president. >> and getting down that level
you do tell the story in great moving detail how these people lives and how they died. you also described why they were there. it turns out it was very prone to a taliban assault. >> that's right. it was built at the bottom of three steep mountains. the high ground had been completely surrendered to the enemy and it was 14 miles to the pakistan border. it was set up during a time in the war where they were setting up a lot of outposts on the eastern area of afghanistan when they were trying to monitor the flow. this were a lot of reasons why they put it in the location, one because to bond with the location and one was to be near a road because that with us the only way to resupply the outpost because all the helicopters were in iraq. so there's way in which you could see the direct relationship on the decision made in washington, d.c., or the pentagon that ends up putting troops in a more dangerous place than they should have been put.
>> why do you think the media covered this war even the partial withdraw. >> more than 60,000. >> more than 60,000. whoo is it that this war barely existed in the presidential campaign and media coverage. is it because they decided they're sick of it and we don't want to inflict it on them? >> the public has decided they're weary of it and you can't blame them. it's been america's longist war. >> in america's longest war, amazingly you have a war that the american people, most of us, 8% of us are completely disconnected from the wafrmt have absolutely no relationship from the war, don't know people serving. >> outsourced. >> completely. the general in the book compares us to the romans hiring legionaries. we have no skin.
with don't serve or have family members serving. look. i'm part of that 98% that has no connection and i wanted to understand and i hope some readers understand what it is these other brave americans sacrificed for us. >> taking yourself out of the bubble that most of us live in and talking to the survivors of the brutal attack and families of the deceased, what was the impact on you? >> that's a whole therapy session. i think shortlily it makes me realize the -- how selfless a lot of americans are in a very unsung way and how brave a lot of them are. i mean i try to tell some stories of these people and their family members. i mean it make yos u lielz what you know intellectually and what politicians say as throwaway cliche, brave troop, valor, but it makes me feel it in a way.
i thank will be there if the rest of my life. >> you're done with the book. >> they're my family and friends. not literally. i don't want anyone thinking i have married them or adopted them. >> you have bonded with them. i want to close on a lighter note. a question you asked at the white house briefing this week having to do with the reports i should say that president obama is considering appoint iing ann >> i will not engage in any speculation about personnel announce mnltss. i just won't sniet was a throwaway line when he was trying to get away from hansing my question. my larger questions were how much an a wintour as one of the most democratically diplomatic
people, even cruel, she's known as mean person, and yet in this society we have, political society ambassador ships go to people who raise a lots of money for candidates and i was challenging him on her qualifications to be a dip employee mack as opposing to being diplomat ek. after the break soledad o'brien steps into the racial minefield of who is being black in america. can tow up to 9,600 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. get the best offer of the year -- 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. hurry. bonus cash ends january 2nd.
the media are quick to classify people. you're white, black, hispanic, gay. in the latest installment of "black in america" soledad o'brien, host of cnn asked this question. >> why are you reluctant to say, i'm black, deal with it. i'm spiky little black hair, i have brown skin. >> personally i don't feel black, you know? i feel like it's a part of me but it's not everything. >> i spoke to the cnn anchor earlier in new york. >> soledad o'brien, welcome. >> thank you. >> in this documentary you talked two two young women. they don't consider themselves black. they don't check black, hispanic, other. is that difficult? >> they're very tortured. you heard from her. she says, well, i don't feel like i'm black. i don't know how to identify and
it's obviously painful for her. her mom is dad, her dad is white, lives with her dad and that's shaped a lot of her identity. rebecca who's a brown-skinned girl whose parents are from after ka, she likes to say i'm african-american but she's egyptian. many people around her say you're not black, you're egyptian, you're middle eastern. it led to a conversation, who is black and what does it mean in america and for these young pimm who represent the generation, more young people born in a multicultural rags. >> i'll throw back at you. >> my mom is black, my dad is white. my dad is white, my mom is cuban. we didn't go into this because. >> it clearly occurred to you before. >> yeah. i thought it was interesting and i was heartbroken by her
interview. i said, you and i are the same racial makeup but you're tortured and i'm not. my mom and dad had a different approach. you're black. you live in a community that's black. it helped navigate me. i think what we wanted to do is take a look at the practical impact of color, skin color, in how you have opportunity in america, you know, why what you are matters. >> did media focused too much on this question of race when we cover stories where we try to put people into boxes? >> you know, i don't know if it's about putting people into boxes. people ask me all the time, what are you? >> one of the reasons i find that a very annoying question is they're trying to make themselves comfortable by putting me in a box. i don't feel comfortable being in a bochlks i know what i feel i am. they're trying to figure me out. they're like let me figure you out policicly, gender-wise, let me figure you out racial lay
because that will make me more comfortable. i never felt like it was my problem. think whank we try to do people used to be black or white and now there are many more options. of course, dollars follow the census. >> there are government programs. if you're a minority you -- >> one of the young women in our documentary is figuring out what she should check when she goes off to college. she says i see myself as african-american but what happens if i check a box and i get there and they say, oh, we took an african-american girl, you're egyptian. she's also trying to figure out, ghavt how she feels and self-identifies and how she thinks society will identify her. >> briefly in your own life experience, there he's no one answer. everybody's gonlt to find what they're comfortable with. >> you can tell by the nasty debate we're having on twitter. it's very painful.
it can get nasty at times. for me i can debate till the cows come home because i'm comfortable. nya is not so comfortable. >> i'm going go twitter and see what people are saying. >> join me. >> thanks for joining me. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me. >> soledad's document "who is black in america" is on tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern.
it can get nasty at times. >> soledad's document "who is [ male announcer ] itchy dry scalp? get selsun blue for itchy dry scalp. strong itch-fighters target scalp itch while 5 moisturizers leave hair healthy. selsun blue. got a clue? get the blue. it was remarkably personal. ron foreign yeah described the difficulties of raising his son
tyler who suffers from asperger's. they met with george clinton and george w. bush but the piece is really coming to grips with the challenges of parenthood. quote, if tyler felt alienate and alone, it's because we failed to acknowledge and accept his difference. i was so fe focused on the conceit that my son would be like kevin costner's >> good answer. >> once rerealized that tyler was dealing with something bigger than ourselves,s asberger's syndrome. we were exploring one of the historical sites. the idea was to give him a place where he could practice what he
had been learning in school about social clues and we were apt to spend more time with him. >> you must have wrestled with what to put in, what to take out. >> once i got back from these two very remarkable trips. my first draft was what you would expect out of me, it was a very political story. what i had learned from the presidents i had covered. i had a really good publisher, who sat me down in his office and said how did it make you feel when tyler looked at you at the white house and said i hope i don't let you down, dad. i said it felt wretched, he said go ahead write that story. >> it was to pull the emotion out of you. >> he was a better psychologist than he was an editor. he's a great editor. >> was it a difficult decision
for you and your wife, i imagine, to broadcast this to the world, this problem or series of problems that you had lived with as a family, your friends knew, now it was everybody. >> the folks that were working with tyler, to make sure that we weren't been exploitive, it was something he was okay with. and we're being very careful now. >> he's 13 now? >> tyler had just turned 15. >> some of this takes place when he was younger. >> the reaction has been ahasing. we're not alone, like a lot of people who have kids that are dealing with this issue, but now they're all coming to us. >> what do they say? >> kind of three different categories. some are saying, wow, i see myself in tyler. and some are saying i don't have a child with special needs
and -- others have been saying that they, like me, they struggle with the idea, whether or not the kids have special needs or not, they're trying to put their beautiful round pegs in a square hole. not to force your kids to be something other than what they want to be. >> and as you write, you said you have felt some guilt because as a political reporter you were on the road a lot covering campaigns. and you had expectations for your son, like playing sports. whatever shortcomings you may have committed, learning to be a dad. >> yeah, it was -- it was a much different writing process than usual. i'm very detached as a political reporter. i really don't care who wins elections, but i would literally sit down and i would be choking up as i was writing it as the process force med to realize that i had been feeling guilty about feeling guilty about my
son, that i had mixed up the idealized version with my son. and that really didn't come out until i was writing. >> and in the half-minute we have, what in addition to finding yourself, in a way finding tyler, is what had you hoped to accomplish by sharing this as a piece of journalism? >> well, we wanted to have something that he would have durable in his hands, that long after we're gone that he would remember what we thought of him and we wanted to force myself to spend more time with him and give him an avenue to learn some of the social skills that he's been given in the real world. >> so it's been a structure to spend for more time time with your son. still to come, an apology from "the huffington post,post."
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monitor, the weekly look at the hits and errors in the news business. a pair of australian radio deejays are off the air after their mindless and juvenile stunt in calling a british hospital and impersonating queen elizabeth to get an update on kate middleton's pregnancy. as you might know, the nurse who unknowingly gave them the information killed herself the nec day. what an unbelievable tragedy. the huffington host howard fineman got -- >> grover norquist, the famous anti-tax lobbyist in washington was running around beginning to enforce ayatollah style his edict about taxes. >> ayatollah finally took to twitter to apologize. norquist's wife is a palestinian muslim. it was with great